Silicon Valley as a test case for spoilers, The Leftovers not TV, but also not HBO, and The Shield ruins waffles.
06:57 – Silicon Valley
17:04 – The Leftovers
23:10 – The Shield
Cordkillers Ep. 27 – Why do you hate ceiling fans?
YouTube names, but do they shame? Also what’s Twitch going to do with the studio they’re building in San Francisco?
It’s Spoilerin’ Time: Episode 26 – Orange is the New Black, Silicon Valley, The Shield (206)
Orange is the New Black sucks— Brian in! Silicon Valley gets more fun-ding, and The Shield turns against one of its own.
00:45 – OITNB
09:15 – Silicon Valley
16:00 – The Shield
Cordkillers Ep. 26 – Drone drunk
We walk through the Aereo decision and how it will slow down mainstream TV. Meanwhile Yahoo steals Community from NBC.
CordKillers: Ep. 26 – Drone drunk
Recorded: June 30, 2014
Guest: Darren Kitchen
Intro Video
Primary Target
- Supreme Court puts Aereo out of business
- Aereo Says That SCOTUS Ruling “Sends A Chilling Message To The Tech Industry”
- Why the Supreme Court just set TV innovation back a decade
- Why the Aereo Shutdown Will Be a Disaster for Broadcast TV
- The US Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that Aereo is a public performance. The service which rented microantennas to users to watch over the air broadcasts on the Internet will have to wind up its operations in all regions. Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the opinion for the majority, arguing Aereo operated like a cable company and “Insofar as there are differences, those differences concern not the nature of the service that Aereo provides so much as the technological manner in which it provides the service.“ Justice Antonin Scalia wrote a dissent arguing that ignoring the technical aspect could hmean other services could suffer “guilt-by-resemblance.” Aereo CEO Chet Kanojia said the decision would cause a chilling effect but the company would continue to fight. However, part-owner Barry Diller told cnbc “it’s over now.” and a “a big loss for consumers.” Thanks to Hurmoth for submitting this on the subreddit.
Secondary Target
- Fox moves to use Aereo ruling against Dish streaming service
- – Fox vs. Dish in 9th circuit court of appeals (Pasadena) oral arguments July 7
– Fox has submitted Aereo vs. ABC in support of their case.
– Dish Anywhere service and Hopper DVR “sideloading” feature
– Dish Anywhere is slingbox. Watch your Live or recorded TV on mobile devices, laptops, desktops.
– Hopper’s “sideloading” lets you move recorded shows to an iPad
– Aereo was deemed to be a ‘public performance’ equipment irrelevant.
– Letter to court by lawyer Richard Stone: “Dish, which engages in virtually identical conduct when it streams Fox’s programming to Dish subscribers over the internet – albeit also in violation of an express contractual prohibition
– Has repeatedly raised the same defenses as Aereo which have now been rejected by the supreme court.”
-What’s at issue is not really whether the Supreme Court would have also found this illegal. It’s the break on innovation and the chilling effect this NOW HAS on innovation.”
Signal Intelligence
- Stevie, the MTV of social video curation, adds Chromecast support to its mobile apps
- Stevie – Video curation based on Facebook and Twitter (similar to Qplay)
– Integrated now with Chromecast
– Streams your social feed on screen while you watch.
Gear Up
- Google Introduces Android TV, Its New Platform For Smart TV Apps And Navigation
- Chromecast’s ultrasonic device pairing is much simpler than it sounds
- – Android TV announced: a software system that will be embedded into the smart TVs and other devices from third-party OEMs.
– create apps using the same Android toolset that they use for mobile phones and tablets.
– Chromecast support too.
– TVs from Sony, Sharp and TPVision, and will soon run on other set-top boxes that will become available later in the year from the likes of Asus
– Chromecast can now play ultrasonic signal through TV speakers to pair with devices not on same network
– USer has to enable setting to allow nearby devices
Under surveillance
- Community’ getting sixth season on Yahoo
- Yahoo will release a 6th season of Community with 13 episodes
– Dan Harmon: “I look forward to bringing our beloved NBC sitcom to a larger audience by moving it online.”
– Joel McHale, Gillian Jacobs, Danny Pudi, Alison Brie, Ken Jeong, Yvette Nicole Brown, and Jim Rash will all return. (NO mention of Donald Glover)
Front Lines
- FilmOn announced a new service to pay to watch broadcast channels on computers and mobile devices.
- He claims FilmON is a cable company and he is willing to pay fair royalties for rebroadcasting channels. It ALSO uses “teleporter” technology to watch TV through a mini-computer screen in New York, no matter where they are in the world.
- LG has opened its smart TV platform to developers.
- LG has built their platform on WebOS which is open sourced and other TV manufacturers can use it. Will they? Do we even want that?
- More people watched the World Cup match between Germany and USA Thursday on WatchESPN than watched the SuperBowl.
- 1.7 million concurrent viewers in the second half. There were some authentication issues in the first half too.
- Knights of Sidonia come to Netflix July 4
- The series is based on Manga about genetically-altered mech pilots fighting shapeshifting aliens.
It originally aired in Japan earlier this year, but all 12 episodes of season one are set to hit Netflix everywhere. - AppleTV got a few new apps, PBS Kids, Willow TV, AOL On and ABC News.
- This gives AppleTV two sources of live news content between SkyNews and ABCNews.
- HBO is letting non-subscribers stream the first episode of “The Leftovers” through Yahoo Screen.
2014 Summer Movie Draft
draft.diamondclub.tv
- TMS: $513,382,797
- DTNS: $480,640,796
- Amtrekker: $472,024,132
- GodsMoneybags: $292,534,313
- Night Attack: $276,017,928
- /Film: $200,185,511
On Screen
- Brian: Orange is the New Black, Silicon Valley, The Brak Show, Legend of Korra, The Walking dead season 2 game
- Tom: The Shield 206 (Amazon), Orange is the New Black Ep. 4, 5, 6, 7 (Netflix) Silicon Valley Ep. 2, 3, 4 (HBOGo), Bob’s Burgers (Netflix) Rome (Amazon Prime)
- Darren: Team Blacksheep
Dispatches from the Front
Hi Brian and Tom,
I just finished reading the Aereo Supreme Court decision and wanted to give an opinion from a lawyer’s perspective.
I think Justice Scalia in his dissent correctly noted that we have some broad, unclear language in the Copyright Act. The majority bases it’s opinion in large part on the legislative history of the act (which is a matter of debate among lawyers. Some like Scalia look only at the language of the statute while others look to the intent of the legislature to guide interpretation). At the end, Scalia argues that the majority is interpreting the Act to reach the “right” result. Scalia acknowledges that he doesn’t think Aereo is necessarily above board, but essentially tips his hat to Aereo for coming up with a clever workaround. Scalia argues that the decision should have been based on the language of the statute, and if that result is unpopular the Congress should be the one to resolve it, not the Court.
I don’t know if the decision will have broad consequences because the majority focused closely on the impacts regarding TV licensing, so the cloud may be safe. Things like Dish and Slingbox… Not so much. We’ll have to wait and see, but this is definitely a step away from being able to watch what you want, where you want.
Love the show!
Geoff from Maryland
Hi Tom and Brian,
I was listening to episode 25 (it seems like such a low number for how long I’ve been listening to you guys) and your conversation about Netflix(?) picking up a Live-ish show, and the suggestion that they could recommend clips from a show based on what your tastes are.
What I got from that conversation was this crazy idea: What if Netflix is using their recommendation engine to figure out what original programming to produce. It would likely require some additional research, but I am suddenly in love with the idea of Netflix taking recommendations up a level by not only suggesting you should watch in their catalog, or what they should buy, but also generating original content based on what a size-able portion of their customers would be interested in watching.
For instance: “Hey, it looks like lots of people really like Sci-Fi horror, and that same segment ties into romantic comedy: We can make a romantic comedy sci-fi horror show!” (This is undoubtedly how Orphan Black was conceived – pun intended) So that’s not a great example, but hopefully you’ll get the idea. A large enough sample, with enough defining data could provide the keys to make a show for your audience, instead of hoping an audience will find your show.
Anyway
Thanks for the great show!
Aaron
As a cordkiller of the last year, thanks to you guys. I want to watch your shows (watch what I want) on my Roku3 (and any device I want). Any plans for a Diamondclub.TV app on the Roku? That might make me a patron supporter if you did.
Eric
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It’s Spoilerin’ Time: Episode 25 – Orange is the New Black, Silicon Valley, The Shield (205)
Cordkillers Ep. 25 – Dongle fatigue
Netflix is getting into late night talk shows. On demand at all times. Also who wants another dongle even if it is from Firefox?
It’s Spoilerin’ Time: Episode 24 – Orange is the New Black, Game of Thrones, The Shield (204)
Piper down Brian, Where do whores go? And dirty cops.
01:20 – Orange Is The New Black
04:54 – Game of Thrones
49:07 – The Shield
Cordkillers Ep. 24 – I don’t give a Ratchet’s Ass
Sony promises an Internet-only streaming service, so does Dish, but Sony’s got the machines to deliver it. Will that end up working against them?
CordKillers: Ep. 24 I don’t give a Ratchet’s Ass
Recorded: June 15, 2014
Guest: Justin Robert Young
Intro Video
Primary Target
- It’s Complicated, but Sony’s Pay TV Service Is Still “On Track”
- Sony Computer Entertainment America President and CEO Shawn Layden tells Re/code
- – Internet-carried service on track coming to US later this year.
- – We probably wouldn’t throw the switch on all devices on Day One, simply because client management is tricky.
Secondary Target
- Dish’s upcoming internet TV service to target cord cutters and “cord haters”
- GM of Interactive and Advanced TV Adam Lowy at the TV of Tomorrow Show in San Francisco
- – “Cord cutters, cord nevers and what we call cord haters” will be the target audience of the new service
- – Fox Network SVP of Distribution Strategy and Development Sherry Brennan said that her company would like to sell its networks through all and any of these new services
Signal Intelligence
- Netflix receives new logo and subtle website makeover
- Netflix website got redesign
- – Includes a slightly transparent top bar and a palette of white and light greys.
- – Logo changed to simpler version the updated emblem uses flat, red text with minimal embellishment.
Gear Up
- Sony’s PlayStation TV Has the Makings of a Hit
- PlayStation TV Coming To US And Canada This Fall For $99
- – PlayStation TV game console (known as the PlayStation Vita TV abroad) is coming to the United States and Canada this fall.
- – $99 ($139 bundle with dual shock controller, memory card and Lego Movie video game)
- – Vita Games, PlayStation Now
- – Not playing up streaming video options, but Japanese version has several.
- – PS Vita already supports Netflix, Hulu Plus, YouTube, Crackle and Redbox Instant
Under surveillance
- Sony formally announces PlayStation original sci-fi series ‘Powers’
- Sony will create an original show for the PlayStation called “Powers”
- – Adaptation of graphic novel by Brian Michael Bendis
- – Elements of police procedurals, sci-fi, and fantasy, and follows a pair of detectives investigating people with superhero-like powers.
- – Free first episode to all (with registration) PlayStation Plus get access to whole series.
- – Ratchet&Clank scheduled for movie release to PlayStation in 2015
- – More to come
Front Lines
- AT&T said if it gets to buy DirecTV it will help create a strong national competitor
- -Can bundle broadband and video in ways it could not without the transaction. It also said there might be ‘upward pressure’ on standalone service. Do we want more bundling?
- Comcast will test a video distribution platform through its X1 cable set-top boxes.
- -It will allow content creators to upload videos viewable on a dedicated app. SVP of video Matt Strauss said the focus won’t be on user-generated video, but target audiences that see high value in certain types of niche content.
- Sonic the Hedgehog will become a movie thanks to Sony,
- -22 Jump Street Producer NEal Moritz and Marza Animation Planet. The Hollywood Reporter says we’ll see the return of Sonic’s long-time antagonist Dr. Eggman (née Robotnik). Anybody want to see Sonic on a big screen?
- Netflix will release 26 episodes of a revival of 1990s childrens show “The Magic School Bus 360” beginning in 2016.
- -Old episodes rank as one of the most popular educational programs in the company’s catalog. Does Netflix risk becoming the reboot factory?
- Zatz Not Funny discovered a new Slingbox model called M1 that looks like a typical video streaming box and has WiFi built in.
- -Could we be looking at a cheaper Slingbox with Roku-like functionality?
- Anime distributor Crunchyroll acquired video startup Redux
- -Redux does video discovery and will help Crunchyroll to improve discovery on its apps.
2014 Summer Movie Draft
draft.diamondclub.tv/
- DTNS: $462,591,077
- TMS: $420,381,999
- Amtrekker: $397,100,217
- GodsMoneybags: $213,120,477
- /Film: $198,386,221
- Night Attack: $97,389,035
On Screen
- Brian: How to Train Your Dragon 2, Orange is the New Black, E3, Thunderf00t youtube channel, Game of Thrones
- Tom: The Shield 204 (Amazon) Orange is the New Black (Netflix) World Cup, E3, MASH the movie (Netflix) Game of Thrones (HBO Go)
- Justin: Game of Thrones, WWE Network , Orange is the New Black
Dispatches from the Front
First of all, love the show, really makes me wish that I had listened to Framerate. I have a small request: from a recent episode of Spoilerin’ Time, I learned that you use the lower third in the video version to identify the show or movie that you’re discussing. But as an audio-listener, I am not privy to this information. I have not yet watched Cosmos or The Shield, so I would prefer to skip those spoilers. But I am a big Game of Thrones fan. I find myself having to spend sometimes several minutes seeking through the episode to find the beginning of the game of thrones discussion, in the process hearing some of the other chatter that I would prefer to postpone. If it is too much effort, I understand, but if there is any way that you can jot down the time when you begin discussing a particular show, and add it to the podcast episode description field, I would be overjoyed.
Keep it up.
Joe
Hey guys! It’d be great if you made use of podcast chapters in the shows; in the main show it’d help with those faux-“”spoilers”” about Star Wars that people whine about, and in Spoilerin’ Time it’d help people to listen and just skip the sections they’re not caught up with yet.
Love the show!
Caleb
Hey Tom and Brian,
As I am getting ready for the 24hr LeMans, trying to find a place to stream it a week or so before the race. I am completely delighted to find that the good people at LeMans are not only streaming the entire race but also chromecast-able directly from their website. I would like to applaud the LeMans group for their forward thinking of live sport’s on the Internet. Thanks for all both of you do.
Cord cutter since 2007
Jason
Ft Myers Florida
As I was watching the Sony E3 press release, I was noticing how they were nudging people in the same direction, although in a much more subtle way than Microsoft. Tom has always been saying that both console manufacturers want these things in the long term.
In particular, the PlayStation feature that lets your friends play in your multi-player game even if they don’t own it seems an awful lot like MS’s library-sharing feature. Every one assumes that it’s going to use Sony’s new streaming service. While that’s probably true, I can also see a time where they use a specific kind of DRM in order to be able to download the game locally to improve performance and decrease load on the servers.
And PlayStation TV is digital only, without fanfare, mainly because it’s only a $100 box. But it plays most Vita games. I’m not sure what “most” means, but based on reviews Vita games seem to be much closer to full console games than phone games. And you can use your PS3 controller so the cost to try it out is small for PS3 owners that haven’t made the jump to PS4 yet.
It’s interesting how this worked out. To me, this seems a lot like Sony learning from its PS3 launch. I remember when PS3 launched, Sony was pushing it as an entertainment center. (Anyone remember PlayStation X?) Xbox was pushing games, especially Halo, of course. That, combined with an earlier release gave the 360 a lead that PS3 could never catch up to. But this time around, the situation seems reversed. And while the release-date lead for PS4 was negligible, the lead in terms of units sold seems to be significant.
Alan
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It’s Spoilerin’ Time: Episode 23 – Cosmos, The Shield (Ep. 202-203), Game of Thrones
The Internet comes for the Cosmos, Tom starts cheering for Vic, and Game of Thrones hits a wall.
Cordkillers Ep. 23 – Netflix Picks Fights
While Microsoft proves Brian right about the Ridley Scott series, but Netflix is being a little trolly and Web video becomes a heritage play.
CordKillers: Ep. 23 Netflix Picks Fights
Recorded: June 9, 2014
Guest: None
Intro Video
Primary Target
- Halo Nightfall’ digital series coming to Xbox from Ridley Scott
- Halo Nightfall Digital Series Headed to Xbox One in November
- Microsoft announced Halo Nightfall, a live-action weekly series directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan and produced by Ridley Scott. The series will be part of the Master Chief Collection.
Secondary Target
- Netflix got worse on Verizon even after Netflix agreed to pay Verizon
- Netflix to suspend its controversial ISP error messages
- ISP to Netflix: Please come to Hong Kong!
- So Netflix started showing an error message that said “The Verizon Network is crowded right now. Adjusting video for smoother playback.” And Verizon got mad and sent a C&D.
- Ars Technica reports Netflix released a new monthly speed index for May showing Verizon FiOS dropping two slots behind DSL providers Frontier and Windstream. Netflix reached an interconnection deal with Verizon that should improve performance but is still being set up. GigaOm reports Netflix also announced they will stop a test on June 16 that shows error messages claiming a particular ISP is “crowded” when connections suffer.
Signal Intelligence
- Close to half of all U.S. households subscribe to Netflix, Amazon Prime or Hulu Plus
- Online television watching reaches all-time high — iOS apps surpass web browsers
- Study from Leichtman Research Group about emerging video services
– 47% of US households subscribe to one or more of Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon Prime
– 49% have at least one TV connected to the Internet
– 49% of Netflix subscribers watch online video once a week compared to 8% of non-Netflix subs. 78% of Netflix subs watch on a TV
– 34% watch online video every day, 61% every wek
– 80% of Netflix subs have cable, compared to 88% in 2010.
– Cord cutters who subscribe to Netflix rose from 16% (2010) to 48%
– 10% of households think it’s likely they’ll cancel cable in the next 10 months
– Total without cable 17 million households (of more than 100 million) - Adobe TV Everywhere report
– iOS applications have surpassed desktop browsers as the most popular access point for online TV content, with a 43 percent market share versus a 36 percent share,
– gaming consoles and other over-the-top devices continue to be the fastest-growing devices for online video overall, with a 123 percent year-over-year increase in online video starts
– nline video consumption across mobile devices is now at an all-time high of 25 percent, with 57 percent year-over-year growth in the U.S. from Q1 2013 and Q1 2014
Gear Up
- Google’s Play Movies & TV Chrome app now has an offline mode on Chrome OS
- Brian’s thoughts on Tablo so far?
Under surveillance
- Web series ‘Star Trek: Phase II’ gets new home, new Kirk
- Star Trek: Phase II, started by James Cawley will get a new studio and a new Kirk
– Brian Gross as a new Captain Kirk (“NCIS: Los Angeles,” “CSI: NY,” and “Saving Grace,” and done voice work on the video game Star Wars: The Old Republic.) Also moving into a new studio in Ticonderoga, N.Y. - Hat tip to soccer fans who want to find the World Cup as a Cord cutter
Front Lines
- PricewaterhouseCoopers(SterlingDraperPrice) released a report projecting that by 2017 services like Netflix and Hulu (all combined) will make $14 billion) $1.6 billion more than the US movie box office.
- Josh Trank, director of Chronicle and currently working on the Fantastic Four reboot has been hired to direct one of the Star Wars universe’s standalone movies.
- The first three movies are rumoured to be about Boba Fett, Young Han Solo, and an X-Wing Pilot movie called Red Five. Which one does Tranke get and which one goes To Gareth Edwards?.
- Disney has Maker Studios. Time Warner owns part of Machinima. Now Viacom acquired a chunk of Defy Media.
- Defy’s biggest hit is comedy act Smosh. Viacom hasn’t tried to acquire Web stuff since they failed to buy MySpace about 10 years ago.
- Bernstein Research’s Todd Juenger put out a possible channel list for a possible DISH Internet-only video service.
- Disney’s already in. Then he guesses broadcast networks as well as Viacom, 21st Century Fox, Comcast and AMC. That would cost DISH $22 a month in fees. Doable?
- WatchESPN, Major League Soccer, Crunchyroll all added Chromecast support
- Aereo just updated its Android app with Chromecast support. This seems like one of the cheapest and most convenient ways to do Aereo.
- Netflix has a trailer for an animated series called BoJack Horseman starring Will Arnett coming this August
- BoJack Horseman, a washed-up actor struggling to get by. Guest appearances coming from Amy Sedaris, Aaron Paul, Alison Brie and more.
2014 Summer Movie Draft
draft.diamondclub.tv/
- DTNS: $445,420,076
- TMS: $351,925,978
- Amtrekker: $320,289,130
- /Film: $196,350,239
- GodsMoneybags: $159,047,975
- Night Attack: $65,341,593
On Screen
- Brian: The Interstallar Golden Album (youtube… inspired by cosmos), Thunderfoot skeptical vids (youtube), cosmos (hulu), Game of Thrones (HBOGo), played a bit w/Tablo, TPIR 2-screen experience (youtube), Xbox E3 announcement (twitch.tv)
- Tom: Game of Thrones, The Regular Show (Netflix) The Shield Ep. 202,203 (Amazon) Clone Wars (Netflix) The Fault in Our Stars (Theater) Halt and Catch Fire (iTunes) Orphan Black (iTunes) Cosmos (OTA)
Dispatches from the Front
Thanks for the show again. Any chance you could section one a week or month where you guys add a show to have people check out. Kind of like book of month from sword and laser. Since your show I have been binge watching and watched all seasons of the shield, archer, and just finished season 1 of arrow. After I watch season 2 of arrow going to start orphan black. Good option would be picking shows on streaming services like I going back to watch the sopranos on amazon prime.
Jack
I just tried to watch episode 22 of Cordkillers in the same way I have for the last 5 months, by streaming it on YouTube from my Nexus 5 to my Chromecast. Tonight I got an error saying this video is unavailable on this platform. I was able to stream it from a Chrome tab on my PC to the Chromecast. Did anything change?
Dirk
Watching Cosmos. I agree with Tom, I have hated the external views of the “”ship of imagination.”” Clearly someone involved with the production either couldn’t grasp the idea (that if the ship is imaginary, the only image of what it looks like from the outside should exist in the minds of the viewer) or they thought the viewers wouldn’t get it. You can almost see someone rolling their eyes and saying “”oooh-KAY”” as they slapped the lackluster image image in to placate an unimaginative superior.
John
I really enjoy the show. Feel like it is hitting it’s stride as of late.
Any chance you guys could keep the Star Wars spoilers off the regular show? Maybe discuss it only in “”It’s Spoiling Time””?
I’m trying to go into Episode VII with as little background as possible and it is hard to do so if you guys are reporting on all of the leaked photos and such.
Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work.
Tim
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